Season 10, Episode 12
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with our special guest, Emery Smith.
So in the previous episode, we were talking about some of these genetic programs that you were involved with in which extraterrestrial DNA was being blended with human DNA. And this gets into some very strange things.
Emery Smith: Yes.
David: And you had mentioned hybrids.
David: So hybrid beings might have qualities that are different from regular humans, as you said.
Emery: Right. Right. Like, humanoid extraterrestrials similar to us and similar to our DNA are a great match to make a hybrid.
And, of course, they may have other abilities that we don't have like exceptional hearing, smell, taste. You know, all the senses might be a little bit different or elevated, especially their neurological system and their brains. But they're all compatible. So it's very interesting.
But during a lot of the hybrid testing, it wasn't like it just was that easy. They made a lot of mistakes. There were a lot of mutations.
And during the mutations, they thought that was good, because they would come out a little bit different, such as reduced cognitive function and a very short fuse, we'll say. They became angry, some of the hybrids.
So they made an entire different program based on making sure they could mutate them.
And that was a different project, a different location on this planet, that was also run by the same MILABs.
So they took the mutation of these genes of all these mutated creatures, and then started mutating them even more, more, more and more.
And then they became so mutated that the cells were actually dying too quickly.
And they were able to add proteins to them to re-animate the body, even though it was brain dead.
David: So this is similar to the concept of the zombie.
Emery: Exactly, yeah.
David: So I have heard from others before you and I ever talked about this . . . about the zombie program. And Corey Goode independently said that he was aware of it.
He might not have thought that it was as prevalent as some of the stuff that you've told me, but, again, nobody really has access to all the compartments.
So let's go into this a little bit.
I guess to frame the discussion, first of all, we have to remember some of the people working in this black ops world are straight ahead Satanic Cabal. Correct?
David: Were you made aware of certain groups that had a depopulation agenda, for example?
Emery: Yes, absolutely.
David: And what was their reasoning behind wanting to reduce the Earth's population? What was the excuse that they would use?
Emery: Control. Yeah, it's getting too out of control for them to control. There's too many people for them to control.
David: So by lowering the population, they could create the New World Order concept?
David: Okay. With people that have that kind of psychopathic, cultish background, why would they see this as useful? What would be the agenda here?
Emery: Well, they made it look like they could use it for maybe war or something, dropping in some psychopathic hybrids in an area and killing a bunch of people, but it actually became more ego-oriented with the Cabal.
And what I mean by that is they were funding a lot of money into these underground . . . amazing underground facilities that were growing all sorts of hideous things, mixing all sorts of hybrid DNA.
Don't forget this is all because we were mixing ET DNA with human DNA and not doing it . . . maybe it's just at the right temperature, and things would happen.
They would mutate into very different things, because it does have to be just right.
David: Now, most people who are familiar with traditional ufology are going to be thinking Dulce, New Mexico. Have you ever gotten confirmation of that kind of stuff being in Dulce?
Emery: No. Actually, I've heard of them storing a few of these beings there – a “few” meaning a few hundred – but actually it was at a separate facility not in North America. That is the underground facility.
And mainly it was for safety, because if something were to break out, such as a virus or something, they didn't want it to be HERE first, even though the funders are from . . . live here, and the corporations are based out of the United States of America.
David: In a previous episode, you mentioned some sort of weird bear-human hybrid breaking out and causing a lot of damage.
Is that different from what we're talking about now, or is this a similar type of idea?
Emery: It's different. They were really trying to make a type of hybrid animal, actually, but it didn't have human DNA in it. It was more animalistic and programmable.
And it was more geared up for, like, the osseointegration projects in the early, early years of making a super-warrior animal that could assist the troops or at least just be dropped in a zone and destroy everything before it was killed.
David: So these hybrids that we're talking about now, they have extraterrestrial DNA, but would they look extraterrestrial?
Emery: They may or may not, depending on the percentage of DNA that they have that is human, because they have to have a pretty close match, number one, for it to work.
And that's when mutation happens. When you push the envelope of percentages of human genomes and interacting with making a human from two different types of genes, it can get really tricky. That's why they had all these mutations.
But then, the more human extraterrestrial DNA they got that was more similar to humans, using humanoid extraterrestrial, then they perfected it so it would be okay.
David: So what were some of the extraterrestrial genetic components that advanced these hybrids over what we would normally be like? What were some of the special features, let's say?
Emery: Well, it could be anything from height, higher metabolism, that you didn't have to eat as much, eyesight would be amazingly increased, taste.
All the senses are usually enhanced, but the most important thing was cognitive function and also having a better awareness than a normal human. So they were more aware than a normal human.
And they also had higher IQs than humans.
David: When we're dealing with these malevolent hybrids, these zombie humanoids, what aspect of extraterrestrial genetics was added, and how did that affect them?
Emery: What happens is: when they're making hybridization, many things can go wrong.
Like I said, it could be just a small temperature thing when they're growing these beings.
And once they start mutating, then you've basically lost the entire project. Once a cell starts mutating, then it's not going to come out perfect. It's going to be very different as far as cognitive function.
And what they do is they'll add chemicals and amino acids and peptides and hormones, and they'll try to regulate it.
And if it doesn't go well, they still let it grow. And then they take that genetic DNA from this, and then take it over to that place, that other MILAB. And they usually shipped the whole being and everything.
And then it's stored there for THOSE scientists to make it even worse. You know, they may add animal DNA to it. They may try to make a disgusting creature or being.
And that's why I said it was ego-related because it is being funded, but it wasn't performing anything. There was no performance factor.
Like, we always had performance factors for ALL of our MILABs.
If you don't meet your performance factor, your whole project gets shut down, and that might mean just meeting a quota.
Or it might mean collecting more ETs or beings or whatever.
So getting back to what you just said, it has to do with when we're growing these beings, if they're going to come out good or not, all depends on the environment and if the DNA is a match or not.
And if not, then they would genetically, and using frequencies, try to trick the DNA to making it THINK it's a match.
David: So if we're having a program that doesn't really have a desirable outcome right off the bat, there's no immediate benefit.
With these psychopathic Cabal people, they're looking at it in a different way.
Are they looking at it as a weapon system of some kind?
Emery: Kind of a fear factor, depopulization factor, you know, they could easily introduce a couple of these beings.
They might go into a city, carry a virus, and easily transmit this virus to a human, and that human would mutate as well.
Emery: Yes! Yeah, not instantaneously, but pretty quickly.
David: It would appear, then, that the media has already been greatly telegraphing something like this.
David: In other words, there's a LOT of movies, and there's a lot of television shows like “The Walking Dead”.
Emery: Well, right.
David: Even the second “Maze Runner” movie turns out to all be zombies.
So it's as if they're telegraphing something that they know they already HAVE to generate more fear.
Would you say that's true?
Emery: Yes, that's exactly true. So I really believe though, even though they may have thousands and thousands of these beings ready to go or doing what they want to do, however they're utilizing it, you know, setting up centers to do mock infections, underground cities and stuff, and using real people for that and clones and programmed life form clones to be utilized in these mass releases of these creatures into a population to see what would happen.
David: You're saying simulations.
Emery: Simulations, yeah. And I think it's more for the enjoyment of the Cabal, to be honest.
Because I do not believe that the extraterrestrials would EVER let something like that happen.
And I also don't believe the Alliance [Earth Alliance] is going to let that happen either.
David: Well, it's interesting because I have another high level insider that gave me a lot of information about the zombie program. And he said that there have been multiple times that the Cabal THOUGHT they were going to release some of these creatures into our society.
And they would have angelic intervention. They would have benevolent ETs, light being type ETs, the REALLY advanced ones, that would completely stop anything like that from happening.
And so what he said was that they ultimately had to scrap enormous programs that they thought they were going to be able to use, because no matter how they tried, no matter which way they tried to flip it around, they just couldn't get it “authorized”.
It's always about authorization for them.
David: So would you feel that's true?
Emery: Yeah, I would say that's very accurate.
David: Let's talk a little bit about these simulations, because what you're describing now is something you and I have talked about quite a bit. And it is disturbing, but I think it's important to get a little bit deeper into it than you did.
Paint the picture now for what would happen in a particular underground facility if they were going to make a simulation. What would we see, like . . . just as the chessboard?
Emery: It would be like a Hollywood production studio set up where they would take a center of maybe Miami or just a city anywhere and then mimic a few blocks of that in an area.
Emery: And then cloned humans that they would just wake up already programmed with something in their head, like they think they lived there their whole lives or whatever, . . .
David: And they wouldn't realize they were in an underground base at all.
Emery: They would not even realize that because they're going to be dead in 10 minutes or infected.
Emery: Because you have to remember this has to do with depopulation programming.
So what they want to know with these simulations is one thing. How fast can we get this virus to spread? And how are the people going to react?
And how many of them are going to fight back, and how many won't?
And who are they going to call? You know, who are they calling?
Emery: So they're very smart about what things to look for, but I think it's just a big chess game for them. I think it's just a big fantasy game.
I don't believe . . . but billions and billions of dollars are put into these little chess game projects.
David: How would a particular simulation come to a conclusion? How long does it run, and how do they conclude it?
Emery: They conclude it when all the humans are dead, and the virus has spread.
David: So you and I have talked about the “Resident Evil” movie series.
Emery: Right, yeah.
David: And we've watched some of them together.
David: So how does “Resident Evil” play into this? I mean, it's a large movie series. There's like nine of them or something.
Emery: Well, you have the Cabal. I mean, it's a perfect description of a Cabal.
David: There's this umbrella corporation.
Emery: Yeah, this corporation umbrella. And they basically were a regenerative medicine corporation, if you read actually the storybook of whoever wrote it.
And what they were doing is trying to regenerate cells for face creams. So it's a great storyline because a lot of these big pharma corporations are behind it . . . of a lot of these things.
So this medicine actually went bad and started actually destroying the skin cells, but it also re-animated them at the same time. So it was really new.
It was kind of like destroying, dying, killing, dying . . . because you want to kill your skin cells so that they grow back faster.
So it was a great concept.
And the thing was they had an underground base somewhere in the United States of America, which was very realistic.
David: In the movie.
Emery: In the movie, which was very realistic.
David: And that's the Hive, right?
Emery: Yeah, the Hive.
And I couldn't believe they actually show schematics because there's many bases that have this hive-looking type base on that movie.
David: So it's very, very accurate.
Emery: VERY accurate.
David: One of the things that I thought was so weird about this movie . . . First of all, the “Resident Evil” movies are all basically zombie films.
Emery: Yes. Right.
David: Pretty much zombies show up in every movie.
David: So you go in. You have this Templar type of symbol for Umbrella Corporation.
They show you this over and over again. And then you have this underground city.
And one of the things that I found really weird, Emery, was the number of props, the number of details, the amount of sets that seemed overkill. Like, you don't need that much detail.
David: And so how did the scenes in the movie equate with what you actually knew to be true?
Emery: Absolutely. It was probably one of the most realistic sets I've ever seen in my life.
Emery: I was actually shocked the first time I saw it because I could not believe they would show people such detail of security, detail of how the lab is set up.
Even the props were real props – the vacuum closed system rooms, the overhead hoods with the gloves and using the special boxes to keep the viruses in.
Especially what got me was the dogs that they use for being aware of certain chemicals.
That all the viruses in these vats, if you break one, has a special chemical in it that the computer knows it's in the air system.
And then the dogs start barking, alarms start going off.
So it was very accurate, especially utilizing an underground base. Having a secret entrance a couple miles away from the base is very popular.
Having two agents that play husband and wife is very popular. You might have someone living right next door, and that's really an entrance to a base in a suburbia. You wouldn't even know it.
So it's a very interesting storyline.
Everything in there was very accurate as far as the AI as well. They use a lot of AI now for running the base because they don't trust humans.
David: And there's also these sort of boss enemies in the movie, these weird, hybrid, grotesque beings that are not just the typical zombies, but like . . .
Emery: Oh, right. And that's a perfect description of the mutated extraterrestrials and humans.
So they can get up very large, these beings, and very grotesque looking, and only have one thing on their mind.
And they do mind control on those beings too and program them to go to this place and kill this or destroy everything.
So they have the ability because they have the cerebral cortex still working.
David: Let's talk a little bit about what are some of the countermeasures that have been done, even with people here, to stop this.
Emery: Well, I think, like I told you before, anything that's going to destroy more than 70~75% of the population, the ETs are not going to let happen.
So if they were to release a virus like that, it would destroy pretty much the entire population almost unless you have the antibodies for that.
So I think it won't happen, number one. And number two, if it did, I'm sure the white hats and the Alliance already have an antigen for that that could easily be put in the atmosphere, and we would all be fine.
I mean, I really think they have our backs.
David: Has the Alliance been actively invading these facilities and shutting them down?
David: Is that part of the . . .
Emery: Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
David: Because I've heard this from other . . .
Emery: Yes, they've been getting in there. They have a lot of moles in there seeing how far they're going and securing our best interests at hand, for sure.
And that's why I'm not really concerned about it.
So it's more of just an ego, like I said, thing.
David: Right. And I've heard from other insiders that they've just hit a brick wall.
Any time the Cabal has tried to do even the tiniest bit of this stuff, they just hit brick wall, brick wall. [They] can't get it to work.
Emery: They can't because they're trying to put DNA together. They don't have the right people. They're having some really severe issues, like I said, mixing the DNA.
Of course, let's say, for instance, like, dogs: you can mate dogs all over the place, I mean, all different kinds of dogs. They can all have puppies.
David: And they're all descended from wolves, usually.
Emery: Right. They all come from one, the wolf.
So what they don't understand is you can't get certain mutated ET DNA with human ET with another mutated different ET human and try to make something out of that, because those are definitely not from one.
Emery: Because they're from multiple different . . .
David: All right. Well, let me ask you this.
David: If we're looking at us evolving and becoming a spacefaring race, which . . . We already have the technology. It's just not being disclosed to the majority of us.
Then much in the same way that we have different races on Earth that actually . . . From what some insiders tell me, the races we have on Earth are much more different looking from one another than most other ET planets - that they're often very similar looking to each other.
Would you say that's true?
Emery: Absolutely, that's true. We're a very diverse society. So we have many different lineages from many different extraterrestrials, but we're still all able to mate and have children. But we still have very different lineages.
David: So as we grow up and become more of a galactic family, how does this work in terms of sexual reproduction with other humans that might have evolved on other Earth-like planets?
Is that possible based on your knowledge?
Emery: Based on my knowledge, absolutely possible, 100%, and it's kind of like the dog theory. Like, there are many different kinds of dogs, there's many different kinds of humans, but guess what? We all come from one.
David: So how do you think this could play out in terms of maybe the greater plan of how we evolve through the changing conditions on Earth?
I mean, I don't know what you've heard about this, but we've talked a lot about the changes in the Sun, the changes in the Solar System, and that life on Earth, that the conditions will be very different.
Have you heard about the idea that our Solar System is undergoing some sort of change?
Emery: Yes, I think you're probably referring to the Solar Flare and different other planets nearby.
There IS a huge change in the Solar System. Absolutely. And we WILL be affected.
Our light bodies WILL be affected by this.
David: So do you think that if we start to meet other races and we begin to have this sort of cross-cultural coupling take place, that this could be part of how humanity evolves in some way?
Emery: Not only evolves, it's how humanity survives.
David: What are some of the positive aspects that might happen? Like, let's say that we meet up with a race that's much more spiritually adept.
Like, if we coupled . . . Like for example, you look at Greek mythology, right? You have “gods”. You have what they would call “men”. And then you have “heroes”.
And the heroes are the offspring of gods and men.
But heroes would be like Hercules. These are people that have stupendous superpowers. And they're not even full gods.
So are you aware of there being humans out there that have abilities like what the gods would have had in the Greek mythology?
Emery: Yes, I am.
David: And this would include what kinds of superpowers?
Emery: Well, powers that we would look in our history of like levitation, not having to eat, things like that, able to produce light and fire, able to travel in space, able to not have to worry about temperature, not have to worry about oxygen.
Emery: Yeah, bilocation.
Emery: Yeah, telepathy is a big one. A lot of cognitive function powers that we don't have that is just so far above us we wouldn't understand, because they're able to connect to the cosmos.
David: Do you think that at some point people like this might deliberately want to start coupling with us in order to . . . for the greater good in some sense, like the idea of heroes being born?
Emery: I do believe that. We ARE the superheroes of the universe . . .earthlings, believe it or not. They look upon us as the superheroes, because if we don't exist, they don't exist.
And they also look at us like, “Wow! They get to taste and hear and smell and see.” And they don't know. Some of them don't know what that is.
You know, some don't have full digestive systems because their planetary atmosphere gives them everything they need.
So we ARE looked at as heroes, believe it or not.
We look into the movies and look at these extraterrestrials in the skies above like, “Wow! That's so amazing.”
But really, they're looking back saying the same thing.
David: There's a lot of talk about the pineal gland. So many ancient cultures . . . This gland in the middle of the brain . . . And I studied the physiology.
Emery: I know you have, right.
David: And it's got retinal tissue.
Emery: That's right.
David: And there's this water in there. And so we're hearing that . . . From various insiders, I've heard that the pineal gland functions as a stargate, and that if we have a fully activated pineal gland, that we would be like gods. We could go wherever we want.
So don't you get the sense with all these humans out there, and how advanced they are, that we're spring loaded?
There's something about this that we're not using.
Emery: No. We have everything that everyone else has. We're just not activated yet.
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: You know? And it's silly because that's why we are the superheroes. We have more than everyone else, believe it or not.
So it's like if we could just figure out that code and get that download and ascend properly, then we could be a flash of light or take this form or any form we want.
David: One of the interesting things that Corey Goode has shared with us is this concept that a variety of different ET groups, and a lot of which are more human like that in his program they call genetic farmers, were apparently taking the very best ascension type of DNA and then mixing it all together here . . . that they had 22 major different programs on Earth.
So do you think it's possible that . . . I mean, because you kind of said that.
David: Something not quite as specific as I said, but do you think that Earth might be sort of like a garden in which these advanced super powers have been stored inside of us for future activation?
Emery: Yes. That's exactly right. It's the womb that we're still growing in, and still evolving in, and waiting to be activated, and reaching out, making the intention to reach out, to be activated, and to ask for other cultures to visit and to be part of that.
David: When I read the “Law of One” material, I started to have psychic experiences. I started to hear voices that were benevolent, positive, giving me positive guidance. And they call that tuning.
And so I'm curious if you feel that even apart from the sexual reproduction thing, just simply being exposed to advanced humans, simply talking to them or being in their presence, would start to activate.
Emery: It would totally activate. Your field that you put off is everywhere. And it's, of course, right here most concentrated.
So being in another person's field, someone comes home angry, and then everyone else gets angry in the house.
Or someone comes home laughing and giggling, the angry person at home starts laughing and giggling.
It's the same concept, but it actually does a frequency change to modify DNA by being around people that you want to be around and being around beings that have a little bit more, let's say, energy and frequency than you do, because it ups your frequency, because you have to get to that frequency.
David: I remember talking to Henry Deacon, who was the first really heavy duty space program insider who I got to talk to.
Unfortunately, he's never been willing to come forward now. He did come forward a little bit back in 2009 in public after talking to me for two years. We had extensive conversations.
And he said that the feeling of love and peace around some of these extraterrestrial humans was so amazing that it was literally . . . it would bring you to tears.
Emery: Yes, overwhelming. Firsthand experience is the most overwhelming feeling of love and compassion, and you can't even speak.
You're just so overwhelmed with this joy feeling, and you do. You start crying. You might fall to your knees. You might just pass right out. It's THAT intense.
Because what these . . . not all extraterrestrials, but most of them have this ability and compassion for us, and they love us so much that if you get next to one of these extraterrestrials, you cannot even . . . you'll just get all teary eyed and laugh and cry at the same time.
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
David: That's really amazing.
David: Well, I want to thank you again for bravely exposing some of the things that are going on. And I do believe that when we speak truth to the power, we empower the truth.
Thank you, Emery, for being here.
Emery: You're welcome.