Season 1, Episode 2
David Wilcock: Corey, this has been such a wild adventure. You started talking to me, basically, every day I think - when was it - maybe last October 2014?
Corey Goode: It was around October, yes.
David: Something like that. And when we first started talking about this, you were just another insider coming forward. And then you eventually decide to release your name because some people were figuring it out through investigation.
And you got pulled into this Alliance, which up until then, you really didn’t have a whole lot of contact with it. Right? It was a new thing that happened after we started to . . . After your name came out, you started to release more information.
Corey: Right. Yeah. My name was brought to this Alliance by this new group of Blue Avians. They mentioned me by name, that they wanted me to be a liaison between them and other groups. So I was sort of thrust into it.
David: Had these Blue Avians ever spoken to the space program people before?
Corey: Yes, they were in contact with a person that I call by another name that’s similar to his, Lieutenant Colonel Gonzalez.
David: So Gonzalez . . . Had you met him before this new sequence of events happened where your name was requested personally?
David: Oh, okay.
Corey: He was a new introduction to me. He had been in contact with the Blue Avians about the same amount of time I had been.
David: Which is how long?
Corey: Right . . . a little over four years.
Corey: He was in contact with them. He brought my name to the rest of the Secret Space Program Alliance.
David: They told him your name?
Corey: They told . . .
David: And they asked him to tell the Alliance that they requested you by name?
Corey: Yes. And...
David: So you hadn’t been up there in a long time, right?
Corey: Right. I hadn’t been a part of that world in a while.
Corey: And they investigated me. They looked into my background, and a lot of my service record had been redacted. And there were some things that concerned them. They really wanted one of their own guys to be a delegate or liaison between this new group.
David: How is it even possible that a black ops group could redact information out of somebody’s security dossier.
Corey: These are hard coded. It’s not supposed to be possible.
David: So that must have freaked him out.
Corey: Yeah, it’s not supposed to be possible. These are hard coded.
David: And I would imagine there's all kinds of . . . within their own system there’s all kinds of rules and laws and precautions about who gets to be brought up there. And if you’ve been out of the loop for that long, they’re not going to be too happy about bringing you up there, I would think.
Corey: Right, and I was not someone that they had full confidence in that would toe the line and follow their every order. They wanted someone that they had full control over.
David: Wow. So this name just gets dropped on them. And how did you find out that you were requested? Did you get contacted by Gonzalez, or did somebody else contact you?
Corey: I was contacted by Gonzalez. I was . . . I ended up getting picked up in one of the craft, one of the shuttle craft.
Corey: And I was informed that I had been selected by the Blue Avians, and I had been informed by the Blue Avians that this was going to occur. And . . .
David: And how would that take place? What is the typical Blue Avian contact like?
Corey: They will either appear in my house, or they have the little spheres come and bring me, little orbs.
David: You said they’re eight feet tall, so how do they fit into your house?
Corey: I have a high vaulted-ceiling house. They have plenty of room to fit into my house. They’ve appeared in my house . . .
David: Do they appear to have gravity weight, like do they bend the floor or something?
Corey: No, they don’t bend the floor.
David: Do they float or do they appear to be standing on the floor?
Corey: No, they’re standing there just like a normal person would be standing there.
David: And it looks totally solid and real? It doesn’t look like a ghost?
Corey: Yeah, they look like you could walk up and touch them.
David: How did if feel the first time this happened? Were you shocked?
Corey: Well, I mean I had been in contact with them for awhile, but it was more of a personal nature.
David: Right, you said four years.
Corey: For four years.
David: So they had been doing this off and on for four years, just appearing in your house?
Corey: Right, it wasn’t a very regular contact.
David: So Gonzalez gives you the message that they’re going to bring you up there, and you said that a shuttle craft came. Could you briefly describe what the shuttle craft is? How does that happen?
Corey: Yes, there’s a small shuttle that fits five people, two crew in the front, and then three seats in the back. It’s a triangular shape and goes up into somewhat of a pyramid shape. And the side opens up. You get in. When it would float in the backyard, I’d go into the backyard to get in. When you’d step in, it would dip down and move a little bit.
David: And so it doesn’t have landing gear?
Corey: No. But it would, there were . . .
David: What was the color?
Corey: It was the black-grayish color that you would see . . . that you associate with the stealth bombers that a lot of people are familiar with. Within a matter of a few minutes, it would zip up to the LOC.
David: And the LOC again is?
Corey: The Lunar Operation Command.
David: Had you experienced this before?
Corey: Not with this. This particular shuttle was new to me. This was . . . There were some newer technology that I was seeing from when I was in prior.
David: So take us through what happens next. Did you have windows you could see you flight through, or was it all blocked out once you got inside?
Corey: Well, at times they could make the panels go transparent where you could see out, but usually it was such a short trip there was no need for you to see out.
David: And how long did it take you to get to the moon?
Corey: Three to four minutes.
David: Wow, so let’s take it from there. What happens? You’ve been invited to be this delegate for Blue Avians. You get brought up to the moon in this shuttle craft. What was going through your mind?
What happens next?
Corey: Well, I didn’t - I really didn’t know what to expect. I was never really given, you know, a lot of intel beforehand. I got dressed real quick. I grabbed the quickest cap I could find off of the rack, which happened to be a hat I got when I went to Houston with my family.
David: This is now while you’re still in the house . . .
David: . . . before you got picked up? So you got dressed.
Corey: And it was when we toured NASA down in Houston, Texas. I had a NASA shirt, a NASA hat we bought as tourists.
And I put on the NASA hat. And the night before - I didn’t even think about it - my daughter is wanting to paint faces. She likes to paint faces.
And she wanted to paint my face, and I knew I had that meeting the next morning up at the LOC. So I was like, “No, I’m not going to do that.”
So she was just like, “Well, can I paint your hand?”
And so I said, “OK.”
So she painted a green dinosaur, tyrannosaurus rex on my hand – eleven-year-old.
So I didn’t wash it off, and it stayed on all night. And it was pretty dried.
And that was still on my hand. I was not looking all dapper and sharp for this first encounter.
As I was getting off the craft, there were other craft. And in this particular time, when I got on the craft, there was another person on the craft that was wide-eyed. It was a lady, and she looked like she had just gotten out of bed.
And she was like, “Isn’t this exciting? Isn’t this wonderful?” And she was just ecstatic.
And it was just her and myself in the three-seater in the back when we went up. And then we just . . .
David: Are there two pilots in the front? Is that two . . .
David: So two people have to run it.
Corey: Right. Two people were in the front. And then the three . . . usually three open seats in the back. And usually it’s just me getting in. This one time I was surprised when it opened to see someone else in there.
And when we land in the hangar, we disembark. And there are a lot of other people disembarking for this conference that were just kind of average Joes.
And they were all starting to file into a line to go into one area of the VIP area of the Lunar Operation Command.
And I was met by Gonzalez who walked me past them to . . . There was a conference room right next to that.
And he walked me right into the very front of the very crowded room and told me to stand. He said, “Stand right here.”
And it was almost in the very front of the conference room.
So I stood there. I put my thumbs in the front of my jeans feeling very weird, because I could feel all the eyes on me.
So then I looked up and started to look around, and I saw all these people in these swivel chairs in a cathedral-like conference room that went very high up. The room could hold around 300 people.
And there were people from all over the world. There were people in . . . politicians in India that wear the cut of the collar.
David: Nehru jacket?
Corey: I guess.
Corey: And people that looked like they were from that area of the world. There were people in different military-type uniforms, different type of Air Force-type jumper suits, and just a wide variety of people.
And some of them looked like they knew each other. They were cliqued off, talking to each other, murmuring to each other.
And I was standing up at the front trying to be inconspicuous as I could, being at the very front.
I had no idea what I’m doing; why I’m there.
And I catch the attention of some of the people in the front. And being gruff military people, they start asking, you know, “Who the heck are you?” I’m cleaning up the language.
“Who the heck are you? What are you doing here?”
I said, “I was just told to stand here.”
And one of them said, “Why are you wearing that ridiculous cover?” Referring to the hat I was wearing.
They said, “Take that off.” I cleaned it up again.
I took my hat off, and just flipped it and spun it onto the floor.
Another one asked, “Why do you have a painting of a Reptilian on your hand?”
And I looked at that, and I tried to wipe it off, but it was too dried. It smeared a little. And I was really starting to get nervous at that point. I had no idea what was going to happen.
David: You just up there being heckled.
Corey: I was starting to get heckled, yeah.
David: You were alone on stage?
Corey: I was alone on stage. No prep. I was just walked there, told to stand there.
And then all of a sudden everybody got quiet and just filed to their seats and started looking behind me.
I didn’t see a flash, anything strange, but I looked behind me.
And there was standing one of the Blue Avians that I’ve come to known as Ra-Tier-Eir.
And a new . . . one of the other Sphere Beings that I had never seen before, that we’ve come to now call the Golden Triangle Head, just because we’ve not been given a name or anything. They’re not real big on names of but...
David: There’s a golden triangle on the top of their body, or . . .?
Corey: It’s head was a golden upside-down triangle – huge head with huge eyes that were blue. And his shoulders were very thin about the same width as this head. He was about 10 feet tall, couple feet taller than the Blue Avian.
And his arms were extremely long and thin, and his legs were too. No clothing. No sex organs or anything like that.
And the skin was brown with a golden sheen, and had three fingers, and it was standing on three toes that were supporting it like this, almost like tripods.
And it was there, didn’t communicate, nothing. It just stood here.
And it just seemed very like it didn’t have any bones in its body – just a very weird apparition looking.
And then Tier-Eir began to communicate to me telepathically with his hand raised doing the communication.
David: Where you looking at him, or were you looking at the audience?
Corey: I was looking at him. That got my attention, just like it got the attention of the audience.
David: Had they seen anything like this before?
Corey: No one except for Gonzalez and a very few had seen the Blue Avian. So this was their first encounter with a Blue Avian.
And all of them were there knowing that they were going to have . . . this was going to be . . . Everyone else knew why they were there.
I was the only one that really didn’t know what was going on. And that's how . . . for some reason that’s how they work.
They throw me into situations with me not knowing what’s going on a lot of the time. It’s odd, but I’ve learned to roll with it.
David: Well, I guess nobody’s heckling you once they showed up.
And then at that point, I then was told by Tier-Eir to turn and introduce and repeat everything that he said word for word, to make sure I repeated everything word for word, and not to change anything.
Everything had to be exactly word for word.
So I turned to the audience, and now I don’t remember exactly what all he had me say in the opening. But then he opened it up for questions.
And there were a number of questions. A lot of them were technical. They were things that I didn’t understand what they were asking. Tier-Eir did.
And I didn’t understand what I was saying back to them.
But there were some interesting questions that I remembered, and when I got home I immediately wrote it down so I’d remember. And I’ve got a list of those if . . .
David: Yeah, let’s . . . If you have something to read, we’d love to hear it.
Corey: There was one person that was in uniform, and he asked if the Avians were the rumored Ra from ”The Law of One”, which was interesting that they would ask that.
And the only response Tier-Eir had me give back was, "I am Ra-Tier-Eir." That was the only answer.
David: Well as you know, in The Law of One, every answer to every question starts with “I am Ra”. So that’s pretty obvious.
Corey: And so that’s . . . The person looked a little disappointed with the answer, but it was on to the next one.
One of the people that looked like they were more from Earth, that looked very important, very dignified, asked why they needed so many spheres? Why were there 100 spheres in the solar system, and why do these beings need these large of ships?
And Ra-Tier-Eir, or I just call him Tier-Eir, had me reply in this manner:
“We require no conveyance. There are far more than 100 spheres that are spaced out equidistantly throughout the solar system. They are what you would best describe as devices and are in place to buffer the tsunami of storms of high charged vibrational energies entering your solar system, so they do not affect your star, planets, and native life in an adverse way as your system enters into this part of the galaxy."
Corey: Another person asked, "If you are not living in the spheres, where are you going when you dematerialize?"
And his answer was:
"Many of us adjust back to our reality, while others remain in what you refer to as a cloaked status and observe activities on Earth and your other colonies and facilities undetected by those around them."
So they’re out of phase or cloaked. And the others go back to their reality. They’re not hanging out in these spheres.
Another person asked, "Why there was an intervention recently after there was a defection of other Secret Space Program groups with actionable intelligence that could have made a major difference and helped them win major victories?"
The response to this was info that the various SSP groups understood, but I didn’t at that time. Since, I found out what this was regarding.
And his response was:
"Since the defections, there have been changes in the tactics that have led to two atrocities that were unsettling. The extremely destructive incidents on Mars and Earth that caused the large loss of life of innocents was a disturbing sign that these new tactics were taking the Alliance in a direction where collateral damage of this magnitude was considered acceptable."
David: What kind of magnitude?
Corey: We can get into it later, but on one of the Mars facilities, there were a quarter of a million, I think, people that died.
David: In a military strike that the Alliance new defectors conducted?
Corey: Yes, without permission from the council. They acted on their own.
David: You said they had actionable intelligence?
Corey: Right, from defectors from other Secret Space Programs.
David: So they couldn’t just do a strike like this any time they want?
Corey: No, it was actionable intelligence that they had a short window if they were going to have an operation. And they chose to act on their own.
David: And Tier-Eir and his associates were very upset about this?
Corey: Yes. There are a couple of Secret Space Program groups that have been blocked from re-entering the solar system since the Outer Barrier has been erected. And some of the people have been lobbying trying to let some of them back in.
And this was one of the people that raised the question that they wanted the Galactic League of Nations – I’ve been referring to them as a NATO type SSP group, but that’s the first time I had ever heard them referred to as a Galactic League of Nations – to return. They stated the group would return under any demands that the Sphere Alliance came up with.
David: How much of the Galactic League Of Nations do you think was outside our solar system when the Barrier went up?
Corey: Almost all of them.
David: These are humans, though?
Corey: These are humans.
David: From here?
Corey: Yeah, and they were almost completely based and operating outside of the solar system. So they’re almost completely out there and can’t come back.
And the response: the request was denied.
And it was communicated that:
“All of the travel within and without of the solar system will remain suspended for the foreseeable future.”
And this did not go over well with many, because a lot of the people present were really wanting to petition to allow this one group to be able to come back, because they saw them more as a neutral group.
David: Do you think with all the intelligent civilizations that the space program people have access to that those civilizations knew that this kind of thing could be done, that a barrier like this could be built around a solar system? Because it seems like it caught them quite by surprise.
Corey: Everyone was caught by surprise.
David: So this is not a normal thing to happen?
Corey: I don’t think so.
One of the few esoteric questions was asked by one of the military people, which was strange to come from a military person. They asked . . . this is a question. This is something that goes around, so they must have access to some information on the Internet: "Is there a soul trap set up for us after we die?"
David: A soul trap?
Corey: Yeah, a soul trap. And since then Gonzalez said he was referring to a white . . . there’s a soul trap white light that people are talking about when you die. If you go to the white light, you get stuck in some incarnation soul trap or something.
David: Well Art Bell was saying that all the way back in the ‘90s. Don’t go to the light. It’s a trap.
Corey: Right, well that’s what this question was referring to. I really didn’t know what it was talking about at the time.
And the answer came back from Tier-Eir:
"The only traps we encounter in life and after are the ones we have set for ourselves. The idea that there is a soul trap at the end of a white light was a PSYOP and a distortion set in place that we can then create with the creative force of our consciousness. This is the intent of the creation of this distortion."
See, this is how they talk. It’s very frustrating.
David: Did they ever explain to you why they have to communicate that way?
Corey: No, they don’t. The person . . .
David: What do they tell you if you try to get more specific?
Corey: They just continue on with what they were planning on talking about. Sometimes I’ll ask a question, and if it’s not pertinent or whatever, they just keep on going.
The person asking the question do not seem satisfied with the explanation. But that was pretty much the end of it, of the questions I wrote down when I came home. I just wrote down after that most of the questions were of technical and tactical subjects that I had no idea of what they were asking or what I was . . . the content of what I was repeating back.
David: In general, what do you think the Alliance was expecting out of these Sphere Beings? Are they expecting military support to be able to create Full Disclosure breakdown of secrecy so that . . . What were they wanting?
Corey: In the beginning, I think they were expecting what a lot of people out there are expecting. They were expecting them to come in and kick butt and take names. They were expecting them to come in and be saviors, to come in and give them technologies to – offensive technologies – to wipe out the enemy, or to come and take these off-world beings off in shackles, and to help come down and take the elite out.
But they were disappointed as well. And they were dumbfounded that they expected this to be a fully military . . . Tthey were military people, military minded.
And them coming in with this, what they called a hippie message of love and forgiveness and raising your consciousness, just did not compute to these people with the way they think. So a lot of them were very concerned and very taken back.
David: When you say there were a lot of technical questions that you didn’t really understand, was the overall gist of it seeming that they were trying to enhance their war footing and have tactical strategy?
Corey: Yes, it was tactical, and it had to do with offensive capabilities and wanting to use their ability to know future events, all these different temporal kind of questions, things that were far above my head in understanding, because I didn’t know all of the logistics going on that they had going on behind the scenes. So I didn’t have any base of reference of why they were asking the questions.
David: And the Blue Avian said – Tier-Eir said – that there’s a tsunami of energy coming into our solar system?
Corey: And since then, he said that these energy waves are coming in like ebbing and flowing. They’re coming in in waves, as our solar system, our local star cluster, is in the torsion field of the galaxy as we are entering this area of the galaxy, this high energetic area of the galaxy.
David: Did he say anything about what the immediate short term effects of that would be as a . . . Like what would happen to us as a tsunami comes in? How would we notice it?
Corey: Well, if they were not defusing this energy, there would be a lot of really catastrophic Sun activity, and a lot of really bizarre behavior in humans and animals, and really bad weather, earthquakes, all kinds of things that these Spheres diffusing this energy is supposedly alleviating for us.
David: What would be the bizarre behavior? What might we see?
Corey: Basically like End Time Madness-type of . . . people just not being able to handle it, handle the energetic change.
David: So the tsunami has an effect on the mind somehow?
Corey: On the consciousness, people’s consciousness. You would be waking up and instead of your local area hearing of one or two shootings every night, you’d wake up and hear of all kinds of shootings, and riots, and crazy stuff going on, people being reactionary and acting bizarre for no apparent reason.
David: I think most people feel like their thoughts are their own free will, and they don’t have any . . . there’s no other influence on how they think and feel other than what’s in their own mind.
Corey: No, we’re all connected. We all have a joint mass consciousness that is affected by the energetic background noise or background energy of the cosmos.
David: What is the effect that will happen as this continues? If they’re stopping people from going crazy, then what are we gaining as this energetic change continues?
Corey: Well we’re gaining time right now to raise our consciousness to become . . . Well, their message is to became more loving, more forgiving of yourself and others. And they say that stops the Wheel of Karma, and that we should focus on becoming Service-to-Others on a daily basis, not being so focused on ourselves and our own self needs, but on helping others, not being a doormat to others, but to try to be empathetic and help others, and to daily try to raise our consciousness and our vibration.
David: So they’re not trying to pose as the new God.
Corey: Absolutely not. And one of the things that they have forced into my head is that I need to make sure that I do not come across as any type of guru, that I need to remain humble, and that I need to make sure that this does not become a cult or a religion.
And I don’t know the history of it, but apparently they’re tried this three other times in the past. And each time, their messages have been distorted, and humans have used it for control and turned it into cults and religions.
David: Can you give an example of where you stepped out a line, and they spanked you?
Corey: Well, there’s been times when I have lost my temper with haters, and they’ve told me that during this time of high energy, karma is more immediate. And I suffer some immediate karma, open myself up to attacks.
And they’ll have a talk with me that, you know, I need to practice what I preach, focus on the words that I’m saying, and I need to try better to embody what I’m saying – become more loving, forgive others.
It sounds easy. But that’s a very difficult path. It is very...
David: Well, it seems like it’s the opposite of what the elite believe.
Corey: Well, it is. And anyone that’s tried to walked that path, you stumble quite a bit. And being human, it’s hard to love people that are hating you.And it’s hard to forgive people that are spitting in your face. It’s not a easy path.
But if you want to raise your consciousness and become a higher vibratory-type of person or being, that’s the path you gotta take.
David: Did they tell you that there’s a relationship between consciousness and physical reality?
David: How does that work, according to what they told you personally?
Corey: Well, it’s the same concept that has been used to enslave us.
David: I don’t understand.
Corey: Well, our mass consciousness has been used as a tool against us to keep us enslaved. The-Powers-That-Be will use media to plant a seed in our mass consciousness, and then later on through mass media, or false flags, or whatever, cause an incident to cause us to emotionally give it energy, and the masses to, through our mass consciousness, to create that situation and make it happen.
David: So you’re saying that’s like imagineering?
David: They’re actually trying to cultivate this power that we have to manifest outcomes that they might want?
Corey: Right. The-Powers-That-Be fully understand the power of our consciousness, and they understand that everything around us, our thoughts, light, energy, matter, are all states, are all vibratory states.
And our consciousness is a vibratory state.
And our joint consciousness is a very powerful co-creative mechanism that has an effect on all of the other vibratory states around us.
And once we learn to harness that, we can change reality, and especially as we’re going into this higher vibratory area of the galaxy and where our consciousness is changing, becoming more higher vibratory, we’re going to become more of a force to deal with for these elites or any other group that want to try to keep us in a box.
David: You said that 40 different . . . There’s 22 different genetic programs going on. And so we have all this DNA from other intelligent civilizations. What happens with all that mix and match of DNA in us as we go through this change?
Corey: Well, what has occurred from this big hodgepodge in mix, is that we have a spectrum, a wider spectrum of emotions than most beings out there.
They have the same emotions we do, but because of all the tinkering that’s happened with our light bodies and our genetics . . . It’s not just genetics. We have a wide spectrum of emotions, which is a blessing and a curse, because, I mean, right now we can't control those emotions. And it’s affecting . . . And our consciousness level is not controlled, so we've kind of got a mess right now.
David: So if someone has a judgmental look on their face and looks at us like, [SCOFFS]. Because of this genetic mix and this spectrum of emotions you’re talking about, does that mean that we are going to actually have a stronger emotional reaction than other intelligent civilizations normally would?
Corey: Yeah, we have a stronger emotional reaction to just about everything than other societies do, because of our makeup.
David: It seems like that could be a tremendous weakness.
Corey: It’s also a great thing once we learn how to control our consciousness, because emotions are like an activator in our consciousness. They work hand in hand, and that’s what helps activate our consciousness.
And we can become very powerful co-creative beings and create a wonderful new world once we learn how to . . . once we’re not being manipulated, and once we learn how to manage our emotions and our consciousness.
David: If the Sphere Being Alliance is not allowing what we’re calling the good guys, the Alliance in the space program, to actually create military strikes, how do they think that anything’s ever going to change?
Wouldn’t the Alliance perspective be that they need to attack these negative groups of extraterrestrials that are still here in order to ever change anything?
Corey: Yes, they have wanted to go the full military route, but negative begets negative. You can’t get a positive from a negative. They’ve been given extraordinary technologies that are defensive in nature, not offensive.
David: “They” is the Alliance, the Space Alliance?
Corey: The Alliance. The Secret Space Program Alliance has been given defensive technologies, but they have been told not to do any more of these strikes that cause large losses of life, not to destroy any more of the infrastructure that is going to be handed over to a post-disclosure civilization that will be the foundation for a "Star Trek" type civilization.
David: Well, disclosure would be a really key word there.
Corey: Yes, Full Disclosure is what they’re going for.
David: So these sphere beings are helping us get to Disclosure?
Corey: Right, that is the goal. They want for humanity to free themselves through Disclosure and through us rising up and freeing ourselves.
And hopefully . . . And it’s going to be messy, because a lot of people are going to be angry. There’s going to be some messy parts, but they want us to do it in a way that’s going to be a foundation for a whole new era for humanity.
David: Well, this is a really fascinating subject, and we are only just getting started.
We’re going to do a whole series of episodes. Obviously, there are so many questions, and we’re just cracking the lid off of this thing, but this is very fascinating.
Corey, I applaud you for your courage and your bravery in coming forward and being willing to do this. And I think you’re a hero, and we all owe you a debt of gratitude. So thanks for being here, Corey.
David: All right.