Season 10, Episode 11
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I'm here again with our special guest, Emery Smith.
In this episode, we're going to be getting into extraterrestrial and human hybridization and some of the very bizarre research that he was involved in on that subject.
Emery, welcome back.
Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me.
David: When you have told us about the work that you did with the autopsies of extraterrestrial bodies, it's a very curious subject for me because obviously these bodies are coming from somewhere.
David: But the scope of how many you yourself autopsied – you say, including all the tissue samples and everything, 3,000, roughly . . .
Emery: Yeah. Specimens – tissue samples and beings, yeah.
David: The sheer genetic diversity of all that material, and then the idea of: if light speed is a barrier for travel, how could there be so many extraterrestrials that we would even be able to get our hands on?
Or is light speed not a barrier to your understanding?
Emery: Oh, light speed definitely is not a barrier for extraterrestrials.
And that's a great point to correlate with the amount of numbers of tissue specimen autopsies I've done, and the number of operating rooms that are down there that are running 24/7, . . .
Emery: . . . and the number of living habitable worlds just in our own Solar System.
Emery: So the numbers are not a lot. We look at it like it's a lot of numbers, but as you pointed out, with everything else that's going on in the universe, and all the different habitable worlds that's been proven, if you really think about it, it's not a big number for just one little planet to have all these different specimens.
And what's not to say all these specimens came from outer space? Maybe they came from inside the Earth in different places. Maybe they DID open up some cavities and found different living things.
Maybe some things have been coming through portals as well that we're unaware of that they've been collecting, which is a whole other subject.
But what's going on is basically we do know one thing: they HAVE specimens. And they're taking this DNA, and they're mixing it with human DNA, and they're trying to make the human a little bit more powerful, a little bit more stronger and trying to also incorporate that to a super-soldier program to have stronger bones, you know, have a faster thought process, and these things.
David: Again, it was very surprising to me when we were talking about you seeing a Reptilian-type of being apparently in custody of two people. You said it was 10' tall, but that for you at that point in time, it could just as easily, or maybe more easily, have been something that we grew, or we made.
You weren't necessarily convinced you were seeing an extraterrestrial.
What led you to having that level of confidence that such a thing could have even been accomplished?
Emery: Well, number one, just seeing something like that, it's hard for me to believe too much that I see when it's like that brought out in the open. And it's usually sometimes done intentionally and sometimes not.
But after working on the cell collection job, I also later on went into the super-soldier program where they were mixing hybrid DNA with human DNA in Petri dishes, of course, really small level stuff, and also the osseointegration program of mixing tissue into titanium and allowing tissue to grow inside titanium and making our bones stronger.
David: How does that work? That seems to be pretty far out stuff. Titanium you wouldn't think is going to be able to blend with living tissue, per se.
Emery: That's what we all thought, but with the advent of new materials out there and the nanoparticles of the surface of the titanium, they have now mastered it and mimicked bone marrow.
You know bone marrow, when you cut into your steak, and you have that mushy, spongy type?
Emery: Well, they have mimicked that exactly into titanium. Then they put stem cells, and growth factors, and tissue, bone cells, in there, and it grows and just flourishes inside titanium.
Emery: And the body accepts it as a natural . . . It doesn't resist titanium.
So steel and titanium is used in surgery all the time. So they learned this is going to be a great way to reinforce anyone's bones, number one, and to allow them to withstand a lot more pressure.
They were having problems, of course, with the muscles and tendons. Muscles they can grow to infinite.
The tendons were the problem because the tenocytes are the hardest thing to grow, and it couldn't support the weight of the extra metal, and the bone, and the strong muscle.
So then they started looking into hybridization of DNA with stronger tenocytes from other living creatures.
David: Well, you whizzed through a lot of stuff really fast there, so let's try to break this down into chunks.
First of all, yes, I've heard about people having titanium rod in their leg, titanium bolts holding their bones together, that kind of thing, but are we talking about something that can be introduced into a healthy living adult, or are we talking about something that has to be manufactured in conjunction with biological tissue as it grows, like a . . .
David: . . . designer being?
Emery: That's correct. It used to be: let's just reinforce this person, see what happens, which is a very . . . you know, it's surgical. It's a very brutal type thing.
But now, with the advent of 3D printing organs and tissues, all I need is a piece of your DNA, and I can 3D-print you over nine months and have you, your body and your everything.
Even you will recoup a lot of your memory because it's stored in the DNA.
Emery: So what I'm getting at is: what if I put the titanium already into the vat and 3D-printed you over the titanium with all the articulate cartilage and metaprogram?
And I could program, like you said, the kind of soldier I want.
David: So you're growing it life-adult size from the beginning?
David: Well, normally, a human is going to take 13, 14 years to reach adult height, maybe even longer.
David: So how would they accelerate the gestation growth process?
Emery: Yeah, they do that . . . Nine to 24 months, they can make a complete body.
And they do that with the advancement of neurotransmitter chemicals, and hormones, and special amino acids from un-Earth origin that allows the body to regenerate faster and the cells.
The problem they're having is with the brain. It doesn't grow as fast as everything else.
Emery: So that's the problem with when we take a pig heart. The reason we use pig valves in open-heart surgery . . .
Emery: . . . is because they grow around the exact same time – cells.
Now, if I took a dog heart and put it in you, it would grow SO fast that you would die, because their cells replicate even faster.
Emery: So what they are trying to do is: let's find all the species on the planet, and let's find out who replicates the fastest, and let's make it more of THAT species than human.
And that way that will be the dominant gene, you know, in that being, but it will have all those attributes of great eyesight . . . .
So they were splicing hundreds of different genes together, which is very difficult to do. And they use very mega supercomputers to do this because of all the algorithms that are done.
And they did it from scratch, and then they keep adding extraterrestrial DNA to it with the extraterrestrial DNA that they have found that is comparable to human DNA as far as the growth rates.
And that's why I mentioned the pigs, believe it or not, are the closest thing to us. They have the same growth rate.
So once you get all the same growth rate on board, then you're allowed to add certain things to them and growing conditions to accelerate the hybridization and the growth, and at different times adding different chemicals to that being so that the brain keeps up with it, because the brain is the problem.
David: So you're saying that the bone marrow of an entire skeleton would be created almost like a chassis or framework and then grown, or is it more . . . ?
Emery: Yea, you can grow the bone over the titanium and just reinforce it. So the titanium is already there.
And then you have these 3D printers that are printing the tissue into and onto the metal or other substances.
There's other substances they use besides . . . I'm just using titanium as a basis . . .
Emery: . . . because everyone understands titanium and osseointegration in the science world.
But there are other substances they're using besides that now that are more flexible and that are more durable to keep these . . . you know, to keep the person, or the soldier, or the programmed life form, or the clone, to last longer in battle or to last longer on mission-oriented missions.
David: So if you print up a being into full adulthood in such a short time – you say as little as nine months – does that also lower its overall lifespan because it hasn't grown at the slow rate that a human normally would?
Emery: I was not in the project long enough to know about that, but from what I heard, that is true because of the mutations that happen when you grow cells.
Like if I take your cell – like a stem cell – and I grow a bunch of them, some of them are going to be a little whacked off. And that could turn into a mutation.
And then when they found out this happens, they embraced it, because they were now making new species, because they WANTED it to mutate. And then it got really weird.
So then you were having all these different species in one mutating and forming new crazy monsters.
All sorts of weird designs were being made, mixing extraterrestrial DNA with human DNA, with the DNA from different types of bacteria in the ocean, and this, and that, and the other.
And it just got out-of-hand.
And you'd see vats and vats of these beings in stasis that they failed, like the one I told you about, the tiger, the person-tiger.
David: Part human, part tiger . . .
Emery: Looked like a hum . . .
David: . . . hybrid.
Emery: . . . hybrid, yeah, that was mutated, unfortunately.
David: Is it possible that if you have a being that didn't work out properly, and it's kept in stasis, can that genetic material be reused?
Emery: Uh-huh. Yes.
David: Okay. I figured, but it's . . .
Emery: Excellent question.
David: . . . a little dark, but let's talk about that.
Emery: Yes. Well, you're talking about the actual genetic or the cellular material of that being . . .
Emery: . . . in stasis. Yes, they can do two things. They can terminate the being and liquefy it and then use that amino acids to do other things.
They can also extract the DNA from that and save it and come back to that later if they need a missing something, and basically adding and subtracting things from the DNA is what they're doing to find out what is going to be able to work together, because the problem is everything wants to fight everything.
Just like when we put someone else's heart in someone else's body, there's a rejection factor.
Emery: There's a rejection rate. So what they have perfected is getting rid of all that, getting rid of the antigens and antibodies that are saying, “No!”
They are now able to program the cells to accept it even though the body might not last a year. But at least they will have a body to do whatever job.
David: So the lifespan, the fact that it's so compromised, what does that mean for trying to use clones to build a species?
I would think that that would be . . . It's almost like this is messing around with something that doesn't really have the potential to create any lasting life form. It's more like just a tinkering.
Emery: It IS a tinkering. And tinkering gets my lab money.
So when I make a breakthrough, I'm going to get what I need for my lab for the next year so I can do even MORE tinkering.
But once you get to a spot, which they already have, . . . So they're already making clones. That's not a secret.
They're already making clones and they're storing them in the thousands. Okay? And they are able to keep these clones alive until they activate them.
And we call these “programmed life form clones” - not just a regular clone that they make, and they use for their own personal exper . . . whatever, . . . assistant.
These are clones that are actually going to be used for something, and I can speculate only the worst, because I wouldn't want a whole world full of clones that who knows what's going to happen if they mutate down the road, or how long their lifespan might be.
So they're probably going to be used for war, because they're just an asset that can be destroyed.
That's the only thing I can think of, because I don't know why they would store so many clones in one area and then this information leak out into the private mil labs.
It could be disinformation, but it's not. It's actual real information. And now it's coming out to the public.
China is already saying they'll be growing people for their organs. It's on national news.
So what's going to happen when they're 18? You just kill them and take the organ?
I mean, what's going to happen here? I mean, you're just growing these people.
David: That's pretty bizarre.
Emery: Yeah. So it's a very . . . And 33 people die every day waiting for an organ here, so I get it. But I don't get it, because those are living creatures, or living organs, or however they're doing it.
But to say a body is kind of . . . To say that we're actually going to make a cloned human to harvest its organs is pretty . . .
David: It's ethically complicated, to say the least.
Emery: Oh! It sends chills up my spine.
Why not just grow the organ, like we're doing in most places? You know?
Emery: Well, why grow one organ when you can grow a whole body?
David: That's the way they think.
Emery: Yeah. Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha. Do you think on some level that they're hoping that if they do enough of this hybridization that they will be able to improve upon whatever we already are?
In a sense, they don't maybe have a spiritual view of this being anything perfect. They'll look at it like a machine that they can upgrade.
Emery: THAT is absolutely correct. I believe they are trying to . . .
They stumble upon things during these hybridizations. They stumble upon things that they never knew.
And then some of those things I think may make it to the civilian world to help us heal, but it's just a very slow and costly thing because that's how they make their money.
“Hey, we discovered this because we were doing this. But we just stumbled upon this just because we were doing this experiment."
And then they'll take THAT idea and put it in a box and manufacture it and sell it.
David: One of the extraterrestrial species that Pete Peterson talked about . . . he called them the Simulacs.
And they were apparently a little more simian than humans are, but for whatever reason, I guess they had tails that were . . . the tails could bend.
And they made their fingers . . . They tinkered with their DNA and made their fingers into these long things that could curl like a tail.
I'm curious if you ever saw anything like that in your autopsy work.
Emery: No. But I HAVE seen feet that were hands, like hands – more like hands than feet. And these are very lengthy people, very human but long-jawed, and very white – very white – and beautiful blue eyes.
And they were ectomorphic with the long, lean bones. And they had these big . . . they weren't feet, but large hands for feet, and just like our hands, like exactly like our hands, but they were feet.
And they were not spread out like this. [Emery puts his hands out, but his fingers are not spread.] They were spread out REALLY wide.
Emery: The fingers would go very wide, too. And a very small palm for the heel. So I think that was for the weight.
And their legs were the reverse – tibia-fibula was backwards in the femur. So if you switched your joints around, it would go the opposite way, back and up.
David: And when you say long-jawed, do you mean that the face extended down more than ours would?
Emery: Yeah, the jawline, . . . at least an inch, and it was a very thin face. They were very attractive beings.
David: What were the size of the eyes like compared to ours?
Emery: Big almond eyes, twice the size of ours.
Smaller nose. They had teeth just like ours, and they had lips.
They had no eyebrows, and they had . . . Their ears were oval and very small.
David: So here you are day after day. You said some days you might have even done multiple specimens in one shift depending on what the assignment was.
David: And we talked in a previous episode about how other genetic teams . . . You'd take a sample out of the cadaver. You'd put it through the wall. Other teams start working on it.
So how extensive do you think this ET-human hybridization is?
Emery: In my own opinion as of today . . . because I know when I left, they had already accomplished it.
So I know as of today, they have already probably duplicated 20, 30 species, like cloned the extraterrestrial species to learn about them.
And they have also mixed their DNA with our DNA.
So I'm sure there is at least 20~30 hybrid species today that can be confirmed. And that's my opinion and speculation, because I know how many they had about the time I left that they were successful with.
David: And you mentioned that the tiger-human was one type that didn't really work out.
Emery: At that time, it did not work out.
David: Oh! But it might have worked out later if they kept working on it?
David: So what would be some other examples of a being that actually had been successfully hybridized? What would we see, just if you could give me one example to start with?
Emery: Well, there is one of the avian extraterrestrials that I have met that are different than Mr. Goode's avians.
And this birdlike human looked like a pterodactyl.
Emery: And they're highly intelligent. They're very nice. They're very intuitive. Of course, they're telepathic.
They don't really fly, but they have very small wings on the back like a pterodactyl.
So imagine a pterodactyl head, that thin, but with a nice mouth underneath, in a body – in a scaly body.
David: So the really long mouth with the teeth?
Emery: Yeah, like the long face, . . .
Emery: . . . and then underneath is a small mouth underneath the jaw.
David: Oh! Wow!
Emery: Yes. So they were successful with making a hybrid one of these.
And I don't know if they're doing that because it would remind people of a demon, or a dragon, or something if they wanted to use it religiously.
Emery: Because definitely it would get a lot of attention if this thing would walk around downtown because it's kind of like . . . You know, it's an ancient dinosaur-looking creature, but it stands upright.
And it's scaly. And it's green and red scales.
And it's very large scales like a fish . . .
Emery: . . . you know, REALLY large scales.
Now, the back of it has these ridges that go down from . . . It starts at the neck all the way down the spine on both sides.
And it reminds me of the back of a crocodile's or alligator's spinous process.
And you know how they have all those little spikes on the back?
David: Sure, yeah.
Emery: Okay. So picture that going all the way down their back into a very, very small tail near the coccyx bone.
Emery: And that's what it looked like, and it was beautiful.
David: And it didn't have clothes?
David: What was the height?
Emery: Yeah. I think they made him larger. They were trying to make him REALLY big, but the species itself was around 6' to 7'. And the hybrid ones were around 8' to 10'.
So for some reason, they were able to use the human DNA to make these compatible, and I don't know how they did it, by the way.
David: The species itself, meaning this is not like a hybrid of a human and a pterodactyl. This is some sort of extraterrestrial.
Emery: They took the extraterrestrial pterodactyl and cloned it with a human, and they made this other species.
David: Now, the pterodactyl head, obviously it has a long jaw, but it also has this kind of . . . phalange on the back. [David illustrates the part of the pterodactyl head that protrudes from the back of the head.]
Emery: Yes. Very large phalange, absolutely.
David: So that was there?
David: Weird. So that sort of sounds like some of the Egyptian things that we see, like, for example, they have this staff that they're always holding.
And it has what looks like a pterodactyl head on that.
And I'd always speculated that might be a pterodactyl that had popped through a portal or something.
Do you think that these pterodactyl-looking beings might have visited the Egyptians and might have been immortalized into that staff or . . . ?
Emery: Because of the head, it's just a . . . It's like a given. You kind of know. It's like, “It's just like in the Egyptian . . . “
But that's a speculation. I can't say that for . . . That's not my specialty, the Egyptian.
But just looking at it, it's like a given. It's like, “My goodness! This is so similar to what they have over there.”
And it's so ancient, too. And they may have been here, because I heard a lot in history about these pterodactyls and things being caught here, and also people visualizing these, and many different accounts of these beings there. So I don't know.
David: Could we discuss another example of one of these hybrid beings that was successful that you got to see?
You mentioned a bird-like being but that it was a bird-like being because it was a pterodactyl.
So what would be another one that would jump out as a peculiar example.
Emery: Well, not all the beings are phantasmical from Earth insects and stuff like that, like the praying mantises and people . . . and these other lineages.
But the most fascinating ones are the ones that actually look like us, the ones that are just a little bit different. Maybe they're a little bit wider, maybe a little bit taller, but they have a face. They have the same digestive system.
And they're just so much more advanced than us and conscious. And their brains are always larger for some reason.
And that's one thing I want to point out is: a lot of the most intelligent five star, you know, humanoid-type extraterrestrials is what they really want.
Because for some reason, it's the most compatible with our DNA. I wonder why.
Emery: I wonder why.
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: So with that being said, any time THAT comes in – and I've seen these beings before, not only with my experiences on CSETI, but also in the Milabs – they are the easiest to make a hybrid out of.
And THAT'S what they have done. And they have hundreds of these hybrids.
So if they can get their hands on one, then they're set. It'll work out.
And they've been very successful, meaning these beings are living a very lengthy life, and because of the very similar genetic code. They're just more advanced, and they have telepathy.
You know, they can do things that we cannot do.
They could be used for good or bad if they would learn how to program them.
David: Well, we've had several other insiders talk about Draco-Reptilians as being a group that now with our technology in the secret programs, they might only be 40 years ahead of us in terms of where we're going secretly.
And in some ways, we're now actually at parity with them in terms of warfare.
So it would appear that our genetic technology is also becoming comparable with them.
So they hybridized their DNA with humans, . . .
Emery: They did.
David: . . . and then they act like they're our gods . . .
David: . . . that they get to control us or something.
David: How do you see our understanding of a supreme being evolving with this genetic recombination stuff? It doesn't . . . I don't think it really would make us gods. Do you?
Emery: No. I mean, I don't know what your interpretation of God is, but I don't believe that at all, because if you have any similar DNA or lineage, that means you can be compatible. You know, you can live peacefully, if you're at the level of that other civilization is the problem.
They're waiting for US to get to that right level with everyone else.
And there's many civilizations all around the universe that started the same time we did. And they're so far beyond us because they were not held back from free energy and anti-gravity and were not puppeteered.
Emery: And there's going to be a huge meeting soon with the Galactic Federation. And they will take five leaders from this planet. And they will tell and bring them to this galactic court and say, “Why did you do this?”
And they're going to say – these world leaders - “What are you talking about? We didn't do anything.”
And then in the back behind them is a giant screen projecting everything they know to the Galactic Federation. And they are telling the truth.
And then they will see that the 300 major corporations are responsible for the world's leaders and all the stuff they've done to all the people of Earth.
So they will come back and grab them.
David: So you're talking about some kind of potential criminal trial . . .
Emery: Yes, huge trial.
David: . . . in which lying is impossible.
Emery: It's impossible. You will not be able to lie. No one will.
David: Right. So there's a lot of ethical complications with trying to create designer species, but I think that maybe a deeper level we could get into is just to say that if there is a supreme being, it's the genetics itself that emanates throughout the universe.
And simply combining genetics doesn't make you a god.
Emery: No. You can't . . . It's like being born into royalty or marrying into royalty. It's still royalty.
They still are going to accept that person.
Emery: So what I'm getting at is that it's still neutral. We're still going to get the neutral. It's not a good or bad. It's just still the same. It's what is programmed and what your belief system is that gets in the way.
So no one deserves to control anyone against their free will.
David: All right. Well, that's all the time we have in this episode. Emery, thank you very much.
Emery: You're welcome.
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