Season 10, Episode 13
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. I'm here with Corey Goode, and we have had so many conversations and questions that have arisen on Corey's fascinating update that we've covered in previous episodes that we decided to just answer your questions in one episode because there's so many of them.
Well, Corey, welcome back to the show.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: The first question is:
“Could you please clarify the advantages and disadvantages of having our Solar System's Outer Barrier removed? Does this mean, for example, that beings like the Dracos could now just come and go as freely as they choose?”
Corey: Yes, it was communicated to me that with the Barrier down now the Portal System was completely open, that beings can come and go through the Portal System, but that that is extremely monitored, heavily monitored.
They can tell by the electrical feedback of a jump from one place to another, how many hops you took, how many connections you hit, before you ended up at your final location. And they can track you down.
They said that whoever DOES escape through the Portal System will be on the run for the rest of their lives because there are no real safe havens around anymore for the negative groups.
David: Now you've mentioned before the Draco kind of have a big enclave in our Solar System, so is this a major defeat for them once this Solar Flash takes place if they're trapped in here?
Corey: Well, before the Solar Flash, they're ALL going to go like into a stasis or one of these temporal bubbles where they hide out until after this energy passes through our Solar System for over a thousand years. And then they plan on coming back out and reasserting their authority.
But it is going to be OUR duty to go down and root them out once this Solar Flash occurs.
David: Okay. So the next question we have is, someone said:
“Sigmund says to you, 'Intuitive empath, my ass'.” And the person said, “I think he was implying that you are not an intuitive empath. Could you explain exactly what he was thinking from that statement?”
Corey: Yeah, he was definitely implying that my intuitive hit was incorrect.
David: So did he have some implicit assumption that intuitive empaths should be this amazing psychic who's always right?
Corey: Yes. He was basically under the impression, “You're supposed to be psychic. You should know everything.”
Corey: You know, there's a reason they'll use three of us in a situation to triangulate. It's because none of us, even when we're enhanced with these serums, are 100% accurate.
David: Right. Next question we have says:
“Ultimately, the Draco are just pawns of this AI that is actually manipulating them. So if the AI is really responsible for all of this, and it still isn't being defeated when the Draco are defeated, then how do we know that we're not just going to become slaves of the AI?”
Corey: Well, part of this process is that when a series of Solar Flashes occur after the Sun comes out of what it's in now, Solar Minimum – which is about 11 years it stays in Solar Minimum – they expect when it pops out, it's going to do so in a spectacular fashion, that there are going to be a number . . .
And while it's in minimum, they expect some flashes as well. Some have already occurred.
And this series of Solar Flashes is going to be basically like an EMP to the Artificial Intelligence. All of the technology that it inhabits will be destroyed, and the AI signal will not be able to permeate our region of space because of this energy that is emanated from the Sun as feedback from the Cosmic Web.
David: How do we avoid being destroyed by the loss of our technology if that is to happen?
Corey: It will be a rough time. People will be . . . There will be a loss of life. There will be some bad things that occur, but that's going to be the point to where a lot of these breakaway civilizations that break positive for us, after all this happens, they're going to see that as an opportunity to bring down all of these advanced technologies to everyone on the planet at the same time and not just give it to a few elite countries and let it filter down to the rest.
David: So are there radiation-hardened technologies that will be able to withstand this Solar Flash and will still be operational after it happens?
Corey: They think that they have some of their technology shielded enough, but from what I've been told, no matter how far you go down in the Earth, it's going to penetrate.
David: But they do feel that they can release technology after this happens that we'll be able to use?
David: Interesting. A similar question that occurs to me right now is:
“If the AI is essentially EMPed by, as you've said, the final of a series of Solar Flashes – it's the biggest one in 10 or 11 years from now – what prevents that AI from just immediately zipping back in on these photons that you say have the AI signal in them?”
Corey: After the thousand years, that signal will come back into our Solar System. We will just have a different type of technology developed out, and we will be aware of the AI threat, and we'll be able to mitigate it.
David: So it is, essentially, everywhere, but we're just like . . . It's like an immune system learning how to have antibodies to fight this.
Corey: Right. The AI signal's being broadcast from many different galaxies all around us. There's no hiding from it.
David: Next question is:
“William Tompkins urged us to get involved. How do you think we should get involved if we want to defeat the Draco and heal our society?”
Corey: It pretty much goes to each individual. Each individual has to do the personal work to make sure that they don't have karmic entanglements.
And we need to start focusing our intent, or our co-creative consciousness, on a positive outcome.
The more of us that do that, the easier it will be for us to attain a positive outcome.
And right now, we're seeing what Tear-Eir called the Great Awakening occur on our planet.
David: Well, “focus our intent” is sort of a general term. Could you maybe get a little more specific about what would “focusing our intent” look like?
Corey: It's just as simple as it sounds. Focus your intention and energy – thought energy – on a positive future for humanity and outcome.
The secret of their black magic is being able to drop some morbid details or ideas on us about a cataclysm or something that will happen.
They'll drop that into our consciousness and a lot of times what occurs is that we make it happen through our co-creative consciousness. We're manipulated.
David: So in a sense then, we have the power to steer this however we want.
Corey: We always have had the power. We've just been kept ignorant of it.
David: So why do the Draco then seem so compelling in what they're doing? If they're only doing what we allow them to do, why have they been so successful?
Corey: Because we've allowed them to do it. You know, we've given some sort of tacit agreement by not fighting it and by allowing ourselves to be manipulated.
David: If the Blue Avians said to you that we should get off of our knees, did they get more specific as to exactly what that means – that specific motif of standing up off of your knees?
Corey: Yeah. It means that we've been programmed as a species to be watching for someone or something to come and save us.
That is a part of the programming that keeps us ignorant of our co-creative abilities.
Once we realize our co-creative abilities, we realize we don't need a savior. We are the ones that we've been waiting for.
David: Very interesting. Okay, next question we have is:
“In order to really get rid of the Reptilians, do we have to wait for the Solar Flash to happen?”
Corey: Yes. To root out the last of them, yes, because that's when they're going into their little stasis areas to hide out, and they won't be able to come out because of the energies. It's putrid to them. They can't handle it.
And it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel, I'm told.
David: Next question we have is someone said:
“I'm wondering to get a little bit of clarification on this. Humanity's cosmic family – this was your quote – 'humanity's cosmic family will come in and assist us in raising us to the next level of human evolution and growth.' So could you specify what is the cosmic family? What is the next level of growth?”
Corey: Well, the cosmic cousins are family. They are human beings almost exactly like us, just different types, that have already gone through this process.
And what is going to happen is that after the Super Federation is fully disbanded, they are going to bring these local 52 star cluster inhabitants, representatives, to that Super Federation facility to interact with us and help us be advisers, advise us through going through the rest of the process.
David: The question also mentioned genetic growth as well as spiritual growth.
“So how would humanity's cosmic family assist us genetically at that point?”
Corey: They assist us with the beginning of taking over our own genetic program.
What that entails, I don't know. But I received some information that after humanity finds out that there IS a genetic program going on and that we're a part of it, that we sort of rebel. We become extremely upset about it.
You know, we all think we're these beautiful sovereign beings. How do we then put that together with the fact that we're just lab mice to more advanced beings?
There's quite a cognitive dissonance issue that occurs. It's going to be a rough time.
David: Okay. The next question is:
“What is the nature of the classes that we are going through in dreams? Is this something akin to sitting in a class at school, or is it more symbolic in nature?
“How is this dream education exactly taking place?”
Corey: Well, from what I'm told, numbers of people are meeting in the same place etherically and are in classroom settings, to where at times, I've been used as an avatar to teach people – people that see me in their dreams in classroom environments all the time. That's been reported.
And I really have no memory. I always said they must be using me as an avatar, their higher self, or something like that.
But what I found out from the Blue Avians is that, indeed, we HAVE been doing a lot of this dreamwork with people and helping train people. It's a spiritual thing, a spiritual level.
David: So there are classes in some cases?
Corey: Right. Classroom environments is how people are perceiving this etheric event.
They're seeing . . . Their higher self is displaying it to them as them sitting in a classroom.
I really don't know exactly the setting etherically that is going on.
David: Well, I find it interesting, Corey, that in The Law of One, one of the most common terms they use for Ascension is “graduation”. And I've had myself many, many of these dreams about a graduation ceremony.
So do you think these graduation dreams could be part of the classroom ideas as well?
Corey: It could be, but the graduation that we're going to go through is a much bigger event. It's this Great Awakening.
David: Right. Okay, now we have a question about the galactic slave trade.
“With the fact that humanity has been traded off so extensively in this galactic slave trade, is the next big push in the battle of good versus evil going to be the war on slavery? And will those people that were extracted from here be returned to their homes?”
Corey: Yes. Now, we're already seeing a big war on human trafficking.
David: Right here on Earth.
Corey: On Earth.
Corey: Yeah, what occurs on Earth . . . There's a lot of human trafficking. It just really hasn't changed in the thousands of years that we think we've evolved. It's just as prevalent now.
But a good portion, over a million people a year, that are a part of this slave trade, are going off planet.
And as we've described, they're traded off for many, many different reasons.
What's been occurring for some time is that there have been operatives – SSP Alliance operatives – that have gone in, and I partook in this – I myself helped do this – they are tagging these victims as they're being sent off.
And at times, a number of them have been rescued and then brought to this planet that the Mayans control that is basically a healing planet, where they take people to heal. So that's already occurred.
What I'm told is that it's going to happen in mass. They're going to go, and they're going to find . . . I mean, there are going to be millions of people out there that were traded off that are going to be rescued and brought back to a planet for a number of years where they're going to be healed. All the trauma is healed.
And once they are to a certain point in their healing, they will be reintegrated with people on Earth.
But in the process, they will let people on Earth know that a loved one is in this program to be healed.
David: Okay, the next question is:
"You mentioned seeing a person on the LOC with a NASA badge, and this is not something we've heard before on 'Cosmic Disclosure' in any of your testimony.
"So could you please expound on the implications of seeing somebody in this, allegedly, simple program of NASA that's not supposedly involved in anything deeper?”
Corey: Recently, Emery and I were talking . . . and there is an Air Force space program and an astronaut school where they train astronauts. It's up by the Great Lakes somewhere.
And there are dozens of these astronauts, and they're the ones that serve on the Military-Industrial Complex space station and operate the triangle vehicles that service it.
Corey: So apparently they are allowed at LOC Bravo. And LOC Bravo is the only LOC that they know of.
They enter it from a totally different way, because we were . . . What we were told we couldn't discuss with the egghead-types, especially, where we had just come from – LOC Alpha.
David: Right. So Emery has mentioned this secret NASA. What do you think would be the size and the scope of the secret NASA as opposed to the public NASA?
Corey: Well, when I knew . . . I mean, it was a long time ago that I was briefed on that – over a decade ago; I mean, it's been a while – but there were only like a few dozen . . .
David: Oh, wow!
Corey: . . . astronauts in this program.
David: Okay. Now we have another question about that NASA:
“Has NASA's presence on the LOC been hidden from us because of exopolitical factors? Did the presence of NASA occur recently? Did the Cabal throw NASA a bone to let them feel better about what they're doing?” This kind of question.
Corey: Well, this is the military branch of NASA, not the public relations branch . . .
Corey: . . . that we know about.
This military branch of NASA, I believe, has been allowed access to the LOC Bravo for quite some time.
It's just that they don't know about the other LOCs. They think they're going to “the” LOC.
Corey: And just like how I was talking about LOC Alpha as “the” LOC because I didn't want to acknowledge the other two.
David: Do you think that this secret NASA knows about the MIC Secret Space Program?
Corey: They're a part of it.
David: Part of it. Okay.
Corey: Yeah, they're a part of it.
David: So it's just one of the divisions.
Corey: Right. And they even have a small base on Mars that they have access to.
David: And what would be the function of that base?
Corey: Research and development.
David: What are they researching?
Corey: Technology. They're building out technology to expand the human footprint in space, but they don't realize that it's already expanded.
David: Okay. So the next question:
“In an earlier episode, you mentioned going to the Mayan ship, and that there was a Reptilian being that was killing people there.
“How did this being end up being able to kill people? Was it using a technology, or was it some focus of its consciousness? How was it doing this?”
Corey: No, it's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. It was a silent, psychic war that was occurring. It was really weird.
What happened is that the Mayans had located this being somewhere in southern Africa in a city that they knew about.
And they had been monitoring, looking for this being, for a while.
They located it, and they used their technology to flash it out of the cavern city it was located at to their ship.
It appeared on the ship, and the Mayans were overconfident about their abilities, and they thought that they were going to be able to put this being immediately into stasis.
What happened is this being appeared, and they weren't able to handle it, and it used its extreme psychic abilities to kill . . . it was between five or seven of these Mayans.
And the tools that they were using – weapons – they were holding up like this [Corey acts like he's holding an ax weapon in front of him by grabbing the two sharp edges of the ax], and their eyes were just above this part [Corey peers over the center part of the ax weapon that goes down in the center] of what looked like an ax handle.
And they were kind of hunched over walking into the room like that, like it was a shield and a weapon at the same time.
Basically, the reason it happened is that the Mayans underestimated this being and how powerful it was.
David: The next question is:
“Have the ETs stopped upgrading our DNA now, or will the next big upgrade take place after the Solar Flash?”
Corey: They're still tinkering and winding down their various projects, but a lot of the genetic tinkering that's going on is going on by humans at the behest of the Draco.
So we still have . . . Through like flu vaccines and all kinds of other methods, they are using viruses as delivery systems to make genetic changes to humanity.
Apparently, before too long, we openly and overtly start taking over the management of our own genetics, and we go the designer route there for a while, apparently.
David: Okay. This next question kind of relates to a discussion that I had with Pete and gets into some confusion that we had, which is:
“Are the Anshar the same Tall Whites that Charles Hall reported interacting with in the Nevada Desert in the 1960s?”
Corey: I don't think so. The physical descriptions don't seem to match. The fact that in the military they call the Anshar – they have called them – the Tall Whites because they're tall, they have blond hair and very alabaster skin.
Corey: But just like they call a number of different beings “Greys”, - the same thing happened in Nordics; they call a bunch of different beings “Nordics” - they get lumped in.
The group that Charles Hall was interacting with seems to be a totally different group.
Now, I see the confusion because as they get older, they grow taller. But what I'm told is that 4th-density in higher beings . . . that this is fairly common. It's a common part of their life cycle.
David: These different growth cycles?
David: Yeah. So Pete was also just saying that the terms that they give these beings just relates to how they look.
David: It's very crude.
David: So you have Saurians, which would be Reptilians, that kind of thing.
David: So a Tall White just means a tall being that's got white skin.
David: Okay. The next question is:
“Of all the different races that you saw among these 52 other witnesses, were they all familiar to you from before or were you seeing some that you had not seen before?”
Corey: No. There were a few that I had seen in the Intercept and Interrogation Program, but for the most part, other than Mica, they were new to me.
But species-wise, there were a number of them that had been caught up in the Intercept and Interrogation Program.
David: Of those 52 other people, each representing a race, how many of them do you think could just pass for a human from Earth without any difficulty?
Corey: Many, and many of them are here right now. These beings are a part of this Cosmic Peace Corps that I've discussed before.
They're here assisting humanity, and they blend into areas that are most like them ethnicity-wise. If a group looks more Asian, they're going to be inserted into the Asian region.
And they are studying us, building up a plan on how to help us. And each of these groups are studying different aspects of our civilization to know how to approach us with a program that will assist us.
David: When I had Law of One discussion forums, going back to '99 through 2003, thereabouts, a lot of people got confused about Ascension, where like there's a Rainbow Body ascension where your body completely transforms into light. And then there's this 4th-density activation that The Law of One talks about.
Do you think these were ascended beings, and if so, what type of ascension had they gone through?
Corey: Yes, they were all what we would consider 4th density, and they had gone through the same energetic change that we had that rearranges their physical molecules, but it's more of a consciousness shift.
Their consciousness was expanded to a point to where it'd be like going from a 2D world, you know, where everything is flat, to a 3-dimensional world where all of a sudden everything has depth.
We're going to go through that type of a consciousness shift to where 3D is going to seem like 2D to us.
And once that occurs, we start thinking in a different way and interacting in a different way. We understand how to control our co-creative consciousness and create whatever reality we want.
We're able to have control over matter.
David: But if they popped into 4th density fairly quickly, then you're not seeing them with larger eyes or skinnier faces or anything like this.
Corey: They don't look any different really than they did before they went through that change.
“Now that humanity is on the council, how often do they meet and who is humanity's representative?”
Corey: Well, humanity is humanity's representative. Now, this hasn't kicked in yet. They're not meeting yet. It's all being prepared and organized.
And the current Super Federation is going through the process of winding down their projects and curtailing them. So we're not having meetings yet.
David: When you say “all of humanity is humanity's representative”, does that imply that there will be some sort of governing aspect to it, that it's not just going to be one person making decisions?
Corey: No, it's not going to be one person. It will most likely be how it is now: a different person from each region rotating in periodically.
David: Representing a democratic vote for that region.
Corey: No. They'll be representing the entire Earth, but they'll have representatives from each region so that they know that everyone's being fully represented.
David: What do you mean by “region”, though?
Corey: Well, you know, like Asia, Africa . . . and within there, we have different countries, and people will rise up as ambassadors in each of those, and they will be rotated through the program.
David: And the way this is designed is intended for everyone to have a voice.
David: So those representatives will be pooling information about what their people want and what they're looking for and bringing that to the attention of this council.
Corey: Right. And just representing the entire globe but from their regional perspective. And that way we get the full perspective of every region in the management.
David: Okay, the next question would be . . . and this is a little bit of a confused question perhaps:
“Who currently is giving orders to Solar Warden, the SSP Alliance and the MIC SSP?”
Corey: Oh, it's very complicated. The SSP Alliance has its own council that makes decisions. Usually, they obey the council. Sometimes they don't.
A lot of the command and control of the Military-Industrial Complex SSP is technologically done from places like Eglin Air Force Base and MacDill.
But the decision-making is occurring at places like the DoD and the DIA within the DOD.
Now, the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) controls the production of the technologies that go to all the different space programs.
But all the different space programs are headed by different organizations, all of which at one point were infiltrated and controlled by the Cabal.
David: What about Solar Warden?
Corey: Solar Warden is no longer called that. I'm trying to get the current operational name. It's had several, but it is also controlled through the DoD but on the Naval Intelligence side.
David: Well, I thought it was a breakaway civilization, though, so how would the DoD control any aspect of it?
Corey: The Solar Warden program was not a full breakaway civilization.
The full breakaway civilization is basically the ICC and the Nazi faction.
Corey: They are completely broken away, and there is no . . . I mean, there is no command and control on the Earth at all.
The military organizations or programs have command and control on the planet. So, therefore, they could not be a fully brokeaway civilization.
David: Okay, the next question is kind of an interesting one.
“Who on Earth is the MAIN human interface for the Draco?”
Corey: There's not one main interface. There's an organization that, I've been told, does most of the interfacing with the Draco.
And it's the Council of 200, and they're made up of elite types, financial elite types, from all over the planet.
David: Now there is this idea that in the highest, highest levels of the secret societies, they have something called the Palladian Rite, where the goal is to become the GLOVE of the secret powers that run the Cabal.
So do you think that some of these guys are using the Palladian Rite and doing a telepathic interface sometimes with the Draco?
Corey: Well, the Draco are interfacing with people all the time just like the Anshar are.
Corey: A lot of times they have . . . they'll do out-of-body experiences and go to people's homes and stuff like that.
The main body that has access to these Draco Royals is this Council of 200.
David: Next question we have is one you've tackled before, but it has come up again.
“Why can't we get any good pictures of ETs or UFOs from the work that you've been doing? And why wouldn't the Alliance be able to authorize the release of photos or video of things that they want us to know about at this point?”
Corey: Well, the Alliance is in negotiations, basically, with the Cabal, negotiating their surrender. So they're going to do everything according to this plan.
David: So would part of the plan involve them releasing videos and photos that are real at some point?
Corey: At SOME point, but at this time, it's really against the cosmic law. They're interacting with beings that are a part of this cosmic law, and they're not supposed to show us video or images of these beings.
People have given me a lot of problems, saying, “Why don't you take photos or whatever?” But, you know, even if I did deliver a photo or a video, people are going to say, “Well, that's just CGI. He did it on a computer.”
So photos, these days, are not the proof that most people claim.
David: Well, since this comes up so often, let me give you a paraphrase of something that's in The Law of One several times where they talk about the idea that their mission is to offer truth without proof. And they even make it rhyme.
And they say that their goal, their mission, is to seed mystery so that it incites a path of seeking.
Corey: Well, we're supposed to have a natural consciousness progression. These giant consciousness jumps are, I don't think, healthy.
I think that we're supposed to go through the process. And a part of that process is learning the truth, expanding our consciousness through these new truths.
It's a process that we're all supposed to go through.
David: The Law of One also says that the process of mystery that's not fully realized as fact creates the facility of will and faith.
Have they ever spoken to you about the importance of will and faith?
Corey: Well, yes. Will goes directly to co-creating and so does faith. They both are important components in co-creating with our co-creative consciousness.
David: So in a sense, this material is withheld from us to inspire our growth, to inspire us to reach out, to seek, to want to figure out how we could be more involved in this world that you're telling us about.
Corey: Yes, and to have a natural evolution, progression of evolution, consciousness-wise.
David: Okay. The next question is:
“Now that the genetic experiments are being wound down, how do we know that the people here on Earth who are the products of those experiments are not just going to be taken away from Earth and pawned off into other star systems for the experiments to continue elsewhere?”
Corey: Well, it'd be very difficult for them to do [that] with this blockade set up.
All of the genetics that are here on the planet are considered human property now.
All of the genetics here are ours to do what we wish with.
David: So it's not as if it would be possible as these Super Federation groups leave to take the humans that they tinkered with along with them and just seed them somewhere else. They would be blocked if they tried it.
Corey: Right. Now one thing that will happen is that the ones that are here incarnated, a lot of them may . . . we may perceive a large group of people dying, but it will just be these people going home, back home to their soul group.
You know, they were here as a part of the experiment, and now it's time for them to go back, so they vacate the bodies.
David: Well, and that could be part of what happens in the Solar Flash or flashes.
Corey: Could be.
David: Okay. The next question is:
“What can people in this community do to start prepping friends or family who have no idea about what is going on, and we're aware of these epic changes that are coming our way? How can we help to prepare people who might not have any knowledge of this yet?”
Corey: Well, this is the perfect time because we're going through what Tear-Eir stated was this Great Awakening.
Everyone is starting to stretch their arms, look around, and realize that they were asleep.
Now, don't go to your friends and families and talk about a message from 8' tall blue birds or talking about ETs that are crazy looking.
What they need to do is approach their family members and begin to seed them with the information about the Secret Space Program, the human technologies that have been developed out – the technologies that are out there but have been kept from us.
When it comes to healing us, providing free energy, water desalination, feeding the planet, all of those things are available.
David: So would you also say that the best way to handle this would be to wait for those teachable opportunities when somebody actually asks a question and has a particular interest?
Corey: You can plant seeds. If you see . . . If there's something going on in the news, and you see they're agitated about it, then you can go in and sprinkle in a little bit of extra information.
“Did you know that we have other space stations out there that we haven't been told about? You know the triangle craft that we've heard about being a UFO? Those are ours. We're flying to and from space.”
And people can believe that easier. They're like, “Oh, yeah. Okay.”
And then they start asking, “Well, what other kind of technologies are they keeping from us?”
It's that type of expansion.
If we go immediately to them about aliens when they've been programmed to reject anything that has to do with aliens, we're not going to get anywhere.
David: Well, let me just run this by you, too.
One of the things that I have found works really well is what I call the “Rule of 10%”. And that is: tell people 10% of what you really want to say and then stop and wait for them to respond.
How do you feel about that as opposed to . . . ? Because I think a lot of people do the big monologue, and that's really dangerous.
Corey: Yeah, people . . . They get lost in the . . . Yeah, that's a good . . . Small, easy-to-digest bites is the way to feed people.
David: And then if somebody changes the subject, you don't necessarily want to try to keep pushing it.
David: You wait till they think about it and come back later.
Corey: You plant the seed and walk away.
David: Right. Well, this has been very interesting, and thank you for answering everyone's questions, Corey.
And I want to thank you for watching and being so engaged that you send us these questions. We're happy to answer them.
This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, and thank you for watching.
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